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0:13 Intervenant 1 Good morning, Notícias às Sete, on Radio Observador, with Carla Jorge de Carvalho. Morocco reacted publicly for the first time to the migratory crisis in Ceuta. In a statement issued last night, the government is responsible for human trafficking networks and misinformation about the entry of thousands of people in Spanish territory. It is the first official declaration of the Rabá authorities on the events of the last few days. Since Thursday, the entry in mass of people by the sea created chaos in the Spanish administration enclave. The majority of those who arrived in Ceuta have already left, but there are still thousands of migrants sleeping on the streets, even because the temporary reception center created, however, has no capacity to receive anyone else. In the statement, the Moroccan government refers to people trafficking networks, misinformation and also misunderstandings. Carlos Pedro.

1:04 Intervenant 2 Concretely misunderstood about the application of a sentence by the Supreme Court of Spain in early July. In July, the judges understood that the people who arrive in Spain by sea illegally cannot be returned immediately to the authorities of another state, contrary to what happens to those who enter by land. The statement of the Ministry of the Interior of Morocco considers that what happened in Ceuta was not the result of spontaneous circumstances, but of the combination of the unintentional exploration of the digital space in reference to wrong messages that emerged on social networks and also on people trafficking networks. The Moroccan government also writes that the management of the migratory phenomenon has to be done with shared responsibility, solidarity and also in the equitable distribution of charges.

1:51 Intervenant 1 Carlos, it also seems to me that there is a war of numbers here. Spain and Morocco make a different balance of the number of people involved and also of the victims.

1:59 Intervenant 2 Yes, the Ministry of the Interior of Morocco points to 40,000, the number of people who crossed the border, less than what the Ceuta authorities say, which point to 60,000. Since these numbers have varied a lot over these days, Morocco also talks about 11 deaths. Ceuta President Juan Jesus Vivas reveals that there are 82 corpses in the morgue of the city. Precisely, the president of Ceuta gives today an interview to El País, in which he strongly criticizes the attitude of the Moroccan authorities in the face of this crisis and in which he demands respect for the territorial integrity of Spain.

2:33 Intervenant 1 Carlos Pedro, with the latest information that comes from Ceuta, the ministers of the European Union will meet tomorrow, an emergency meeting to discuss the migratory crisis. It is remembered that Italy temporarily suspended the rules of the Schengen space with Spain. Denmark defended that the measure was extended to the rest of the countries, something that divided the member states. And over the last few hours, Carla, it was known that social networks had a significant impact on this migratory crisis in Ceuta. Thousands of immigrants were deceived by false publications that realized that the Spanish border was open to those arriving by sea. This is what the special envoy of observers to Ceuta tells us, Inês André Figueiredo. These people came because they received messages, mainly through social networks, informing them that the border of Spain, in Ceuta, was open, that it was possible to enter for free, without papers. There will have been a set of publications posted on social networks that obviously had an extraordinary impact, the algorithm works brilliantly in these cases. On top of that, as we know now, bots may have been put at the disposal of these publications so that they reach even more people. And we are not talking about a population that lives properly.

3:58 Observer journalist Inês Andréa Figueiredo spoke to several of these immigrants who were deceived by the publications that were spreading on social networks and highlights two specific cases that were heard in recent days. We ended up talking to people who told us, a friend sent me a message on Whatsapp, I knew that the border was open and as I was on vacation I came to try my luck, or I was drinking coffee and smoking a cigarette, an ambulance driver passed by who told me that the border was open and I immediately put myself in a taxi, which was an hour and a half from the border, and I came here, because in recent years, and this person in particular, who I am talking about now, tried to pass many times, times, he never did, and now he had an opportunity and did not want to let it pass. The special broadcast of the observers, Ceuta in the history of today's day, Inês André Figueiredo, there are thousands of Moroccan immigrants who continue in Ceuta in the hope of being able to stay in Spanish territory. This migratory crisis in Ceuta will also be the topic of the explainer to listen, as always, soon to follow the Jornal das Nove. The Minister of Education returns today to Parliament and once again to answer the about the problems in the correction of national exams. Fernando Alexandre participates in the meeting of the Permanent Commission of the Assembly of the Republic. The debate is scheduled for 3 pm. It was decided on the last Friday, in a meeting of leaders conference,

5:22 by the initiative of the Socialist Party, which asked the presence of the Minister to the deputies. Fernando Alexandre goes, once again, to Parliament, at a time when the public school mission continues to report problems in the correction of exams. This movement says that there are teachers who report the lack of follow-up sheets or who receive the exams late, on vacation. Therefore, the public school mission says that it will be very difficult to meet the deadline set for the disclosure of the results of the re-appreciations. It is expected that it will be next Friday, the 17th, to also remember that there are still students from the first phase who do not know the grade they had in the secondary national exams. The President of the Republic receives today the Liberal Initiative and a delegation from the Court of Appeal. António José Segura receives Mariana Leitão at half past three in the Palácio de Belém. This audience was requested by the Liberal Initiative, which wants to talk to the President of the Republic about the current state of the country. It is hoped that the controversy involving Luís Neves will be a topic of discussion at this meeting. After the liberal initiative, António José Seguro will still receive a delegation from the Court of Appeals. The hearing was asked by the heads of the court, which does not reveal the reason for the meeting with the head of state, which will also be held this afternoon. Donald Trump says he is scheduled for negotiations with Iran.

6:49 He announced what happens after the North American president says he canceled a massive attack planned for tonight. Donald Trump guarantees that he canceled this large-scale attack, which was preparing against Iran, in order to be able to resume the dialogue. The President of the United States says he was convinced by appeals from allied countries in the Gulf, such as Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar. We were all set to go. It was going to be a massive attack. We had everything ready, but when our allies asked us to cancel, we thought,

7:23 Intervenant 3 We are thinking, well, let's see. And the reason they asked for it is because they believe there is an agreement, there is an agreement on Hormuz, and then there will be an agreement on the nuclear issue, or, if you prefer, on the denuclearization of Iran. I call it the denuclearization of Iran.

7:41 Intervenant 1 On board the presidential plane, Donald Trump also admits in declarations to journalists that there is a possible agreement between the parties regarding the circulation in the Straits of Hormuz, but that there are still negotiations pending regarding nuclear issues. This announcement of new negotiations between Iran and the United States has already had an impact on the markets. The price of oil is now retreating by about 7% in the opening of the Asian session. The Brent, which serves as a reference for Europe, fell to US$ 83.70 per barrel, after last week having surpassed the US$ 100 barrier. It is now 7 and 8, Carla, what other news to highlight this Monday morning? There are no active rural fires in the country, in the Valde Pass fire, already in the phase of resolution, there are still close to 200 operational on the ground. Already yesterday, in Vila Franca de Xira, a fire broke out in a mud zone that forced the cut in both directions in the north railway line between Vila Franca and Castanheira do Ribatejo. The normality has already been put on the line. The traffic was also conditioned at Ponte Marçal Carmona, which establishes the link between Vila Franca de Xira and Samora Correia. Lula da Silva officialized yesterday the re-candidacy to the presidency of Brazil, with the motto of defending the sovereignty of the country

9:09 and to prevent the extreme right from re-governing the country. Lula has as his main opponent in this electoral race Flavio Bolsonaro, the son of former Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro, who is in house arrest after being convicted of attempted coup d'etat. The presidential elections in Brazil are scheduled for October 4.

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10:59 Good morning, it's 7 and 10, next, good money, bad money. This program has the support of Crédito Agrícola. Believe in the power of your ideas. If you have an innovative project in the agriculture sector, agriculture or forestry, participate in the 13th edition of the Entrepreneurship and Innovation Award Crédito Agrícola. We will award 35,000 euros in prizes. Candidates until August 9th at www.premioinovação.pt Crédito Agrícola. The national bank with local pronunciation. Central Bank of Crédito Agrícola Mútuo registered with the Bank of Portugal under number 9000.

11:38 Monday is the day to look at the price of fuels. How are you, Paulo? Well, thank you.

11:42 Intervenant 5 Well, thank you. And the prices are also up there. Well, thank you. It's almost all the same this week. The price of gas and oil rises by two cents. In short, it is nothing more than looking at the rises of the last few weeks.

11:57 Intervenant 1 What is the accumulation? What is the accumulation?

11:58 Intervenant 5 Well, that's why it stays up there. One more drop, isn't it? Gasoline drops by one cent, too. It won't make much difference. Drops by one cent?

12:11 The price of diesel will continue to rise above 2.06 euros per liter, while gasoline will go down to 2.15 euros per liter.

12:29 Intervenant 1 per litre. The final prices... 10 to 2.15, this is impressive, that's what we got.

12:35 Intervenant 5 Up there, right above the 2, right? We already know that these are average prices, they are reference prices, we find lower and also higher values, especially in highways, but lower in some stations. Just out of curiosity, I went to the the site of the General Directorate of Energy and Geology, which has the updated values of all the stations, and the cheapest in Portugal, this weekend, was in Vila Formosa, not by chance, the Spanish competition is 2 or 3 km away, in the Vila Formosa intermarch, the gasoline was at 1.759. It's impressive, isn't it? And the oil gas is 1.779, so the differences, we are here talking about almost 20% below, about 20% below.

13:28 Intervenant 1 You have to test to go to Vila Formosa.

13:29 Intervenant 5 It's true.

13:30 Intervenant 1 You have to get something done to go to Vila Formosa.

13:33 Intervenant 5 It's just testing, the deposit.

13:35 Intervenant 1 Testing is enough.

13:36 Intervenant 5 You get here with less than half a deposit, but that's it.

13:39 Intervenant 1 So, Paulo, the new credit rules are already in force.

13:42 Intervenant 5 From Banco de Portugal, that's right, new rules, especially for the concession of housing credit, entered into force on day 1, therefore at the beginning of this month. They are more demanding rules, especially in the application of what is called the rate of effort for the approval of loans. Banks now, according to the recommendation of Banco de Portugal, should only approve a loan if the rate of effort of all client loans does not exceed 45% of the monthly income. until now, this percentage that was in force was 50%. What does that mean? That these 45% correspond, in the end, to the maximum yield factor of a particular or a family unit that can be intended for the payment of the loan. This, attention, the accounts are made not in the scenario of the interest rate that is being contracted, in the real moment for a loan, but in a scenario of stress test, as it is said, in which the rate in force is increased by 1.5%, that is, if the rate in force now with the spread that is to be applied to that client is 3.5%, for example, 3.5%, the test that is done for this is 5% in this case, so 3.5% plus 1.5% above. In the end, for what? To prevent, because we are talking about loans with decades of duration, 30, 40 years, many times, to prevent a possible variation of the interest, at least at one point and a half, during this period.

15:12 Intervenant 1 As we already know, it can happen.

15:14 Intervenant 5 Of course, as we have seen in recent years, it happens and it happens even in a much larger amplitude. Therefore, they are more demanding rules. There is a possibility that banks will not comply with this, that is, they will go beyond 45%, but they are in exceptional situations, also depending on the financial and patrimonial conditions, obviously, of those who are receiving the credit. And obviously the Banco de Portugal explains this for two reasons. First, to contain the indebtedness of the families and also to reinforce what is the solidity of the banks, preventing that in an eventual real estate crisis and the release of the interest rate, banks will have real estate that people can't pay and they won't receive a loan that weakens the financial situation of the banks.

16:09 Intervenant 1 This program has the support of Crédito Agrícola. Believe in the power of your ideas. If you have an innovative project in the agricultural, agri-food or forest sectors, participate in the 13th edition of the Entrepreneurship and Innovation Award, Crédito Agrícola. We will award 35,000 euros in prizes. Candidates until August 9 at www.premioinovação.pt. Crédito Agrícola, the national bank with local pronunciation. Central Bank of Crédito Agrícola Mutuo, CRL registered together with the Bank of Portugal under the number 9000. very good day 7 and 16 this is the sound of the war cabinet in the mornings 360 this second day off with the analysis of Francisco Pereira Coutinho, university professor and specialist in international law. Hello Francisco, good morning, welcome.

16:55 Intervenant 6 Good morning. Good morning. Good morning.

16:56 Intervenant 1 Donald Trump canceled the attack on Iran, which according to him would have been the biggest since the Second World War. He says he did it to give an opportunity to negotiations and then also to be convinced by allies such as Saudi Arabia, the Emirates and Qatar. Francisco, what reading do you make of this retreat? Was it the regional influence that managed to contain Washington?

17:16 Intervenant 6 Yes, I believe so. I believe it was the regional influence, especially from Saudi Arabia. This is no longer the first time this has happened. In fact, this is cyclical, because we see threats from Trump, and then we see this, right? At this point they call it TACO, right? Trump All His Chickens Out. And then he will say, he already said, that the Iranians are asking for an agreement, then they will say that the Iranians gave everything, and then he will say that in the end it is not possible to negotiate with the Iranians, and he will again threaten them with bombardment. So this has been like this since April, and in this concrete case, what is perceived is that in fact the countries of the region, especially Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the Emirates, have a lot to lose with a large-scale attack from the United States, because the Iranians are not quiet and were also very active in the negotiation plan, especially foreign ministers, and warned several countries in the region that if the United States in fact attacked power plants, water supply plants, the Iranian energy sector, the Iranians would retaliate exactly the same way. And therefore, those who have a lot to lose there in the region are the other states, and they are allies of the United States, and above all, they also have great commercial relations with Donald Trump himself. Especially Saudi Arabia, the business of the century,

18:40 what Donald Trump is always talking about is with the Saudis, and therefore, for all this, Donald Trump ended up retreating, and even better.

18:47 Intervenant 1 Trump also said that it was Iran itself that asked to negotiate, something that Iran denied immediately and publicly. Is this encounter of narratives on the very day of the conversations part of it, or does it only show that the negotiation channels remain extremely fragile and susceptible to a new collapse?

19:05 Intervenant 6 Yes, completely. So this is part of such a cycle. He says this and says he does this because the Iranians asked to negotiate. Why? Because that's what Trump is saying. My threats worked. So I'm just retreating because they gave up. And then he will say that the negotiations are going very well, that he got everything he wanted. And then when everyone realizes that this is not true, he will say that this is not working result precisely because the Iranians are not reliable people and will return with the threats, right?

19:34 Intervenant 1 As we have already heard, right?

19:36 Intervenant 6 We have heard cyclically and several times. Of course, Trump could be seen, and it is true that he threatened, he had some attacks for a few weeks, but they were attacks that were still held. So, the possibility of scaling the conflict, taking the strait as a military-terrestrial operation, he does not want to do it, clearly. we have always had to confirm with what the Iranians are saying, in relation to what Trump in the background announces. He makes a post where he says that the Iranians asked to negotiate and that they will give to the United States what the United States wants, which in this case is to open all the straits and the resolution of the nuclear problem. The two things, so at this moment we have not even managed to have the strait open and the strait remains closed, because this is the problem with Trump, isn't it? He says he will do it and it is imminent, but then what do we observe? Well, they are passing by alive. Exactly. So, something is here that does not play in relation to Trump's considerations, in relation to the reality that we are observing. And therefore, Trump always tries to shape reality to his desires and announces several times the problem that reality does not move, especially here in the Middle East, things are particularly complicated.

20:49 Intervenant 1 But Francisco, Trump also says that nuclear issues are for later, now the most important is the Ormuz Strait, is it sustainable to dissociate the maritime and energy security of the uranium enrichment program of Teheran?

21:01 Intervenant 6 Here I think so, I think it is absolutely essential, and of course this is also part of Trump's own strategy, not only here, this also happened in Gaza, which is to try to solve short-term problems that allow at least a ceasefire or some kind of agreement, and only then move on to the more complicated issues. Now, what is the problem here? It is that, generally, it achieves agreements that are celebrated on top of the knee and that are not very intensified. And this then leads to difficulties in understanding what each of the parties committed to do, which is what happened with the memoranda about a month ago. And, therefore, the issue that has to be resolved at this moment has to do with the Tormuz directorate and with the different visions that the United States and Iran have The United States wants a completely open strait, Iran wants to maintain some control over the strait and is negotiating with the countries of the region a new arrangement for the Straits of Hormuz. The doubt that exists at this moment is whether the United States will accept this eventual agreement that Iran reaches with the countries of the region. Apparently it is not very easy for Iran to convince the countries of the region to maintain a control over the Straits of Hormuz. So this is what is difficult right now, but above all this is already an Iranian victory because at the end of February the strait was open, we were discussing the issue of the Iranian ballistic and nuclear program and right now we are just discussing the issue of the opening of the strait.

22:29 Intervenant 1 About Ukraine, Zelensky warned that Russia wants to expand the production of ballistic missiles while sanctions do not arrive. Francisco, if this happens, if Moscow manages to accelerate the pace of production of these missiles before the West delivers interceptors to Ukraine, Ukrainian air defense is at serious risk.

22:48 Intervenant 6 It runs, it runs, it runs. This is in fact a very serious problem. By the way, one of the explanations that was given to Donald Trump at this moment, going back, sorry, to Iran's action in the attack, has to do exactly with that. Because the stock of US anti-ballistic missiles, Patriot and FAD missiles, is very low. It is estimated that they already have spent about half or more than half of those ammunition and they take a long time to be produced. What does this mean? It would mean that if Iran attacked the countries of the region and the North American military bases, the United States would have difficulties in defending them, so they really need those anti-ballistic missiles. This then links with the war in Ukraine, because the Ukrainians need a lot of that, because at the moment they do not have great countermeasures and have a lot of difficulty in repelling attacks with ballistic missiles from Russia. and Putin knows that, and he has these missiles, he has this production done. The Ukrainians are producing their own ballistic missiles, but they are still at the beginning of the production of these missiles. Ukraine, in the times of the Soviet Union, produced many of these missiles, but let him do it. So there is an asymmetry here that at the moment favors Russia. In fact, it is one of the few points of the war that Ukraine does not have at the moment how to defend itself. This is going to be particularly difficult in winter because we are going to see Russian attacks on Ukrainian electric infrastructure and this can leave Ukraine in great difficulty.

24:15 The Ukrainians asked for help from the Americans, their allies, but at the moment these missiles do not exist, even because of the war in Iran in sufficient quantity for the Ukrainians to defend themselves. And then there was a very worrying news here, which was apparently a recoupment of Donald Trump in relation to the license he would have given the Ukrainians to produce the Patriot. This was a very strange decision, because this was a license that would be given to the Ukrainians and the Ukrainians would take some time, perhaps a few years, to produce the patent. Therefore, this retreat from Donald Trump is really very difficult to explain and could have to do with Russian pressure, we do not know very well, or other types of countermeasures that he wants from the Ukrainians.

24:53 Intervenant 1 In political terms, we can say that Ukraine is going through a crisis. There are those who say that, at this moment, Zelensky has more support outside of Ukraine than within the country itself. At the same time, the head of the Ukrainian forces was replaced by someone extremely close to a group that no longer considers Zelensky indispensable.

25:10 Intervenant 6 Yes, really, there was a crisis, internal politics, very serious, and it does not seem to me that it has been a crisis that has been well managed by the Ukrainian president. And there is a paradox here, that Ukraine is a democratic country, but Ukraine is a country where there are no elections. And there are no elections because there is a war. Now, the population continues to manifest itself, as long as it does not agree with some decisions made by its political leaders. And that's what happened in this specific case. Therefore, there was a problem between the Minister of Defense and the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, and President Zelensky misjudged this conflict, because he resolved by dismissing the Minister of Defense. But the population did not agree and, therefore, protested. In fact, Zelensky himself came to say at a certain point, when he explained the decision, that he would have dismissed both. the two. The demonstrations came and he ended up dismissing the two. And he ended up calming the protesters, changing the Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces for someone closer to the profile of the Minister of Defense. The Minister of Defense, however, did not return. Now, as there are no elections, it is not possible to replace the President, right? And so Zelensky lost here, internally, some credibility, because, well, he suggested this trying to respond to what he saw on the streets, and this is no longer the first time this has happened.

26:40 It's been 21 years and he did exactly the same thing, he had exactly the same problem when he decided to dismantle the anti-corruption agencies, and immediately on the street we had this. The demonstrations, yes, yes. Now, there is a positive aspect here, which shows that Ukraine is the same democracy, because the president reacts to what he sees on the streets. There is nothing to do with what is happening, for example, in Russia. Now, there have been no elections, it is evident that things do not go with a degree of normality, and so Zelensky says he has to learn a lesson from what happened here and try to prevent situations like these. Now, I'll tell you something, Marisa. I think that, at some point, the Ukrainians will have to find a way to organize an electoral act. Because, in the meantime, we are already going to five years of war and, therefore, we are going to wait for this war to end. The situation is becoming increasingly difficult. It is very important, in democratic systems, that politicians are cyclically legitimized by the people. It is clear that Zelensky continues to have legitimacy because we are seeing demonstrations on the streets asking for his replacement, Zelensky's. And the Ukrainians are perfectly capable of going out on the streets and saying what they want. And since we haven't seen that yet, apparently Zelensky continues to have complete legitimacy to be the Ukrainian president.

27:57 Intervenant 1 But nothing like going to vote, right?

28:00 Intervenant 6 Nothing like going to vote, of course, nothing like going to vote. Now, clearly, the administrations do not ask for their substitution, nor do their rivals want and demand their substitution. And because everyone understands that, in fact, it is not a normal situation, the country is at existential risk and, therefore, they cannot give the Russians munitions with internal conditions that always result from electoral acts, which are often difficult to manage, even in situations of normality, especially in the context of an armed conflict.

28:32 Intervenant 1 Francisco Perarucuti, thank you very much for your analysis in the Gabinete Guerra. Have a good week, Francisco.

28:36 Intervenant 6 Have a good week, thank you. Thank you.

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30:45 Intervenant 1 It's 7.30 am, the news on Radio Observador, Carla. Morocco reacted publicly for the first time to the migratory crisis in Ceuta. In a statement issued last night, the Moroccan government is responsible for human trafficking networks and the disinformation spread on social networks by the entry of thousands of people in Spanish territory. Spain and Morocco also make a different balance of the number of people involved and also of the dead victims. The Moroccan Ministry of the Interior points to 40,000, the number of migrants who crossed the border, less than 20,000 of what the Ceuta authorities say. Morocco also speaks of 11 deaths. The President of the Autonomous Community of Ceuta reveals that there are 88 corpses in the morgue of the city. The ministers of the European Union will meet tomorrow in an emergency to discuss the migratory crisis in Spain. The Minister of Education returns to Parliament today. Fernando Alexandre participates in the meeting of the Permanent Commission of the Assembly of the Republic to discuss the problems in the correction of national exams. The debate is scheduled for 3 pm. was convened at the last conference of leaders on Friday at the request of the Socialist Party. The Public School Mission continues to report problems in the correction of exams and warns that it will be very difficult to meet the deadline set for the disclosure of the results of the re-appreciations that will be on next Friday. The President of the Republic will receive today at the Palácio do Belém a liberal initiative and also a delegation from the Court of Accounts. The Liberal Initiative requested an audience from the President to talk about the current state of the country.

32:15 It is hoped that the controversy of the Minister of Internal Administration will be a topic of discussion at this meeting. Later, António José Seguro will receive a delegation from the Court of Accounts. The audience was asked by the court leaders, who do not reveal the reason for the meeting with the head of state. Negotiations between the United States and Iran are resuming today. Today, the announcement was made by Donald Trump, who also reports that he canceled a massive attack planned for tonight in Iranian territory. The President of the United States says he was convinced by the Gulf allies, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar not to attack. This announcement of new negotiations between the two countries has already had an impact on the markets. The Brent oil barrel is being negotiated at about US$83, when last week it exceeded US$100.

33:13 Radio Observador. Good morning, it's 7h32, before the Indabank asks this question, we wait for the weather, which has heat, but also rain. In practically the whole country, the sun escapes them. As for the maximum, it's expected 30°C in Santarém and Faro, 29°C in Coimbra, 28°C in Lisbon, Viseu and Leiria, 27°C in Aveiro and 25°C in Porto. At this time, it's 22°C in Faro, 20°C in Lisbon and also in Aveiro, 19°C in Porto, Coimbra, Leiria and Santarém, 18°C in Braga and 15°C in Viseu.

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34:21 I heard the question, but it's not a question.

34:24 Intervenant 5 I understand your questions, but let's be calm, okay? I don't want anyone to get mad.

34:29 Intervenant 6 I answer this when you say, look me in the eyes.

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34:35 Intervenant 1 Jesus Christ. Bruno, Lula is Lapa, Lapa is Lula. Lula is Lapa, Lapa is Lapa. I didn't know the languages right away. tomorrow.

34:42 Intervenant 3 Hold on to power, again candidate for the presidency of Brazil for a possible fourth term, but it's not just that, it's also that he continues to be the best political candidate in his area and one of the great failures of the Brazilian left is not having, in the last two decades in which Lula was in the presidency and most of the time, created figures that rival the current president in popularity and, in some way, in credibility, electoral Electoral credibility. Lula continues to be a family member for the left and the polls that give him an advantage over Flávio Bolsonaro, the son of the former president and who will be the presidential candidate, show that. The enthusiasm may not be the same as it was after Lula's first two terminations at the beginning of this century. He says he has the same energy he had at the age of 30. years, but as long as there is no better alternative, he will continue out there, as a Lapa, as a Lula, as President Lula.

35:41 Intervenant 1 European countries, Paulo, do not understand about immigration?

35:44 Intervenant 5 This is clearly one of the factors of the greatest tension between European countries, and this crisis that involves the migration invasion of Ceuta only confirms that. The Spanish government, which failed to control the borders, accused several countries countries of selfishness, ignorance, ignorance or even bad faith. Denmark and Italy, for example, responded in an open letter saying that they can not allow, and here we already accept, that mass passages not controlled, the instrumentalization of migration and other hybrid threats create the perception that the illegal entry of the European Union is possible. Well, today there will be a meeting of Ministers of the Internal Administration of the European Union, precisely to talk about the subject, but the division here is clear. The Open Borders Agreement, the Schengen Agreement, obviously presupposes a responsibility in the management of the entrances that Spain apparently did not have here. This is a little bit like living in a condominium. If one leaves the doors of the crowded streets, they all end up at risk. Bruno, can the data be

36:48 Intervenant 1 more valuable than the bottles? Today, Carla, that's not even a

36:53 Intervenant 3 It's a strange question, on the contrary, personal data are today almost more valuable than anything else, and that includes, of course, bottles. And that is also the reason for the concern of a group of citizens with this new recycling system of bottles and cans, because the value can be withdrawn in a drawer or it can be credited in loyalty cards of distribution chains, and this can allow cross-references of information, for example, to detect consumption patterns, purchase history and even the very act of depositing bottles in the return system, to know who is doing well. The data, nobody knows for sure how much they are worth, but it is very likely that they are worth more than the 10 cents per package returned.

37:46 Intervenant 1 Paul, I'm with my finger in the air to see what side the wind is blowing in the conflict between the United States and Iran.

37:52 Intervenant 5 Are you trying to understand what I'm talking about? Look, at this moment it seems to be running to the side of the suspension of the attacks, right? I don't know if it's tonight, you guys are more up to date.

38:02 Intervenant 1 It was supposed to be tonight, yes. Yes, but attacks announced, pre-announced attacks too.

38:07 Intervenant 5 Of course, of course, yes, but there could already be some shots there, right? to some missiles, but there it is, you never know, at any moment it can turn to the other side. The last months since the beginning of the conflict, that's what they tell us, many times these declarations are worth half a dozen hours. And it was on Saturday night that Donald Trump announced that the United States would not advance, at least for now, with new attacks on Iran. Of course, the American president did not do it without one of his threats. He said he was ready to attack the Islamic Republic of Iran with levels of military terror, force and power never seen since the Second World War. It's all huge, this, isn't it? But as Trump is good, and from Iran and other countries in the Middle East, it seems that there was the suspension of the attacks. So here is a window that can be only for days or even hours without which the oil, for example, can fall again, but then it will rise again when the missiles return, of course.

39:02 Intervenant 1 Radio Observador. Very good day, it's 7.38, next time we won't talk about anything else.

39:08 Intervenant 4 For some people it's a kind of rummage of eternal longing.

39:14 Intervenant 1 Eduardo Sano, because yes, it's not an answer.

39:16 Intervenant 4 What I was talking about at school, my friends, they said that babies come in a second's beak.

39:22 Intervenant 1 Every day, from Monday to Friday, at 4.45 pm.

39:27 Intervenant 4 I say this to laugh, but I shouldn't laugh anymore.

39:29 Intervenant 1 On Radio Observador and always on podcasts.

39:40 Do you remember Noma?

39:43 The dinamarquese restaurant 3 stars The polemic, right? And do you know when was that polemic? That's what surprised me the most in the news You're going to say that for many months For me, few. It was only in March It was only in March

39:58 Intervenant 5 The polemic was only in March It was only in March

40:00 Intervenant 1 I thought it had been longer This time I thought it was the opposite I thought it had been longer more time, but no, it was in March a New York Times report detecting a series of allegations that were not denied, in fact, of abuse, of aggression against employees, bullying, blackmail, physical, psychological abuse, that report fell like a bomb, in such a way that this restaurant, considered one of the best in the world, was five times considered the best restaurant in the world, had to close, the founder resigned, apologized, but said that apologizing was not enough, Well, a few months later it is reopened, or will reopen this week, in a kind of rebranding. The new team decided to get together and take what is the initial foundation of the name and make it more traditional. The new executive chef who has been working in this kitchen for almost 10 years, Pablo Soto, is a Mexican who promises changes but is in that style of changing without changing or keeping the same brand. brand. It will replace the previous seasonal menu, now the menu becomes monthly, in constant evolution depending on the products that are available and guarantees above all, and this is the main novelty, guarantees that the staff, which is

41:28 composed of about 100 workers, will be able to have a full life outside of work. who works in the area says that it is very difficult, especially in the upper kitchen, to be able to have some life out of the pots, pans and pots, but he guarantees that this is what he wants to do, the priority is that people can continue to live their lives and work. work. The opening is this week. Let's see what the name will be after having been destroyed in the reputation. Let's see how it reacts after this new boss.

42:08 Intervenant 5 There it is, not for the food. The problem was never the food. But surely there will be some cortinium now too. Of the environment that is lived there in the team.

42:18 Intervenant 3 Everything will be very attentive. I come to tell you about a wedding that is scheduled to to start on October 10th, and it will last for 3 days, and it's in Rio de Janeiro and it's a wedding of two celebrities, of which you may never have heard of they are very famous

42:37 Intervenant 1 in their land

42:38 Intervenant 3 yes, in their land, among their families, they are famous each one for different reasons, we are talking about the son of Robert F. Kennedy, the North American Secretary of Health North American, of course, descendant of the Kennedys, son of Robert Kennedy, nephew, this one who is going to marry grandson of John Fitzgerald Kennedy and Brazilian singer, Brazilian Julia B. I had heard you talk, you must have heard the song

43:10 Intervenant 5 Nina Solta. I have a vague idea of ​​hearing you talk about the Kennedy clan, not about this one

43:16 Intervenant 3 concretely. It's a movie, isn't it? I think so. This is Conor Kennedy and they have already married in an official ceremony.

43:26 Intervenant 1 So they have already married seriously. They have already married, they are already married. And now comes the show.

43:30 Intervenant 3 And now comes the show and the show is going to be big, very much at the request of the bride, who is already married, married and by the way that already signs also with the name Kennedy already has the Kennedy nickname in the name and she said my love I love you but I'm not going to get married in Massachusetts she refused yes she said she wrote this is true and then what will happen the Kennedy family the Kennedy clan goes all the way to Rio de january and not just the Kennedy clan but they will be only from the Kennedy family about 150 people who go to Brazil, to Rio de Janeiro, but there are also other guests.

44:16 Intervenant 1 We've already had Julia B.

44:18 Intervenant 3 Already? Is it B or is it B?

44:20 Intervenant 5 I think it's B.

44:23 Intervenant 3 B? Julia B? I'm going to stay on Radio Observador. And you didn't bring at the time...

44:29 Intervenant 1 I didn't bring, I don't think we ever dated.

44:32 Intervenant 3 They've been dating since 2022. So I don't think she came before. She came before. It was this, it was this that gave her a boost. Exactly. To come here to the Observer. Of course, who is on the list of guests is Donald Trump, the President of the United States, for reasons that are understood, but the artist said that she has a list of particular guests, but if she has Trump, she will have Lula too. was what she said, of course, this is here to balance. If you have a president of the United States, you must have the president of Brazil. This mention of the Brazilian president does not appear at all. In October 2022, when they started dating, they met, at the time, who was a candidate for the presidency of Brazil, Lula da Silva, they even made the gesture with the fingers of the L in a support demonstration to Lula, who I don't know if it will have gone well in the father of the then-boyfriend or boyfriend. Well, but it is another of the reasons of interest of this marriage between Conor Kennedy and Julia Bee,

45:50 marked here for October, she said she wanted it to be three days, this is serious, it seems that it is now also the new trend of weddings, it has to last, it's not just a ceremony, she said she really didn't want those ceremonies to arrive at 10 pm and end and everyone goes to their side, no, this has to be really a serious party, and besides the presidents, current presidents, the presidents of the United States and Brazil, there are many other guests who have already been spoken to, besides a great show, it will not be the bride herself to give this show, but there must be some to do the musical show, It is also talked about the possibility of this being filmed, recorded, to be sold on a platform, the wedding.

46:54 Intervenant 1 There must be a lot of people interested. Yes, yes.

46:57 Intervenant 5 Or not.

46:58 Intervenant 3 No, and because you can reach very different audiences here. Some interested in music, others interested in political issues, others fascinated with the Kennedy family. and is always waiting for the next tragedy.

47:15 Intervenant 5 Who knows if it's not this tragedy.

47:17 Intervenant 3 It's the same thing.

47:19 Intervenant 5 Let's see what this will be.

47:21 Intervenant 3 No, it will be, it will go well. We hope so, and we also hope, since she was here on Radio Observador, that the invitations arrive. Yes, yes.

47:30 Intervenant 1 At least for us. Already delivered. At least. Radio Observador. We are at 13 minutes 18. And now begins another Inquiry Commission of the 360 Mornings.

47:41 Intervenant 4 I saw an old housewife, insisting and until the morning.

47:45 Intervenant 1 For each correct answer, you get 5 points. If you ask for our help and get it right, you get 2 points.

47:50 Intervenant 2 I think he was a writer, right?

47:52 Intervenant 6 Yes.

47:53 Intervenant 2 Now, I don't know much about the history of Brilhão Pato.

47:55 Intervenant 1 What really interests me is the recipe. And if you give the wrong answer, of course, you don't score.

47:59 Intervenant 2 Let's see if I can get out of here with a better score than the one I was invited to.

48:04 Intervenant 6 Inquiry Commission, on the 360 Mornings of the Radio Observer.

48:07 Intervenant 1 And always on podcast.

48:09 Intervenant 2 I'm already making some ameijos.

48:21 Intervenant 3 Three touches, today we will start with the Super Cup. Porto beat Torriense 1-0. That was crazy, that was so unbalanced. Torriense gave the fight. Torriense gave the fight. Torriense, who will be in the Europa League this year, is already in a hurry because he won the Portugal Cup. He gave the fight, but he lost. And so, Porto goes back to overtaking Benfica on the list of clubs with more trophies. Yes, Mário João, once again. No, this has been going on in recent years. is ahead, Benfica was ahead before the last national championship, Porto equalized and now surpassed Benfica. They have 88 trophies and Benfica has 87. Let's see what happens at this time, if Porto increases the difference, if Benfica can recover or if neither of them wins, it's all the same. Let's also look here at exorbitant prices. We've been talking for a long time about the prices of the tickets.

49:19 Intervenant 1 You're talking about gasoline and gas.

49:21 Intervenant 3 Also, look, here you can put the two things together. The prices, for example, of the plane tickets, but those that are really very, very high are the tickets to watch the United States Open. Tennis is a little inaccessible to the wallets of ordinary people, For example, there are those who are willing to pay 10,000 euros to watch an exhibition by Roger Federer, who no longer competes, but will play an exhibition match. A ticket for the women's final is already worth 5,000 euros.

50:03 Intervenant 5 Even so, let's compare it with the World Cup and...

50:06 Intervenant 3 But a ticket for the men's final is already worth 18,000 euros, and the trend is to increase in the near future, and this discussion about the price of tickets arises at a time when players are demanding a larger share of the revenue of tennis, even though the United States Open, since last year, has become the first tennis tournament to pay 5 million dollars, about 4.3 million euros, to the winners, to the winners of...

50:41 Intervenant 5 Because men and women receive the same thing.

50:43 Intervenant 3 ... and receive the same thing in most tournaments. Those of the Grand Slam, as a rule. Now, and we are talking about a value that has increased a lot in recent years, and to give you an idea, in total, the prize money is 90 million dollars, that is, 78 million euros that are distributed to all athletes, an increase of 20% in relation to 2024. But the players, even so, think that it is not enough because the revenues of the USTA federation, the North American Tennis Federation, go up to 540 million euros, this in 2024, and out of those 540 million euros, 485 million, about 90%, come from the United States Open, from the tournament, so it's a lot of money, this has to do with the tickets, but not only, of course, also with the sale of television rights and other receipts that are made during the United States Open, during the tournament. Of course there are expenses, but even so, the operational profit of the tournament is in the 240 million euros. This is what has led the tennis players to demand to receive a greater share of the profits of the tournament.

52:10 For now, looking only at the tickets and the price of the tickets, I would say that it is a little above what a normal person can pay, but when we look many times at who is present in these tournaments, especially in the finals, we see that it is not for normal people, it is not for the citizen, it is only for celebrities. Celebrities, these ones probably, some of them don't even pay, they have invitations.

52:39 The US Open is almost starting, it will be the last big slam of the year. For those who don't have money for fuel, to pay for plane tickets and to pay for the ticket, you can always watch it on television, there's no other remedy. Now, we're talking about, we were talking about it a little while ago, we don't talk about anything else than one of the weddings of the year between Julia Bee and Conor Kennedy, but we can also talk here about one of the couples of the year, they were back together, Vini Junior and Virginia, Virginia Fonseca, Vini Junior's influencer and partner, they rescheduled the relationship after after a moment of pause for hydration, maybe, I don't know, but they came back after the facial harmonization of Vini Jr. And Vini Jr. gave a party of the day now to signal the end of the holidays, he will return to Real Madrid. And who must be very anxious for the return of the Brazilian star is José Mourinho. This weekend was the first game of preparation for Real Madrid, with José Mourinho in charge. the Spanish club tied 2-2 with Fiorentina and at the end José Mourinho said, it's okay, but the good ones are still missing. I don't know if this was a very encouraging message for the players.

54:05 Intervenant 1 Mourinho is doing the mind games.

54:08 Intervenant 3 It must be to motivate them. Of course, the players who were in the World Cup are missing. not all, Federico Valverde from Uruguay, who ended up leaving in the first phase, is already integrated, he already played this game against Fiorentina, but there are many others like Jude Bellingham for example, Kylian Mbappé, there are many players who are still missing and José Mourinho is already very with a lot of desire to motivate them, since he could not, by the judges, motivate those who are already there. And Vini Junior is one of those stars, he was also in the World Cup, and now he signaled with a rumble party this return. It was not the return, it was the end of the holidays, what was celebrated was the end of the holidays for being big and now it will be under the command of José Mourinho at this time and who is also almost back to work is Vozinhas, we have talked about him here, it was confirmed that he will play at Colo Colo from Chile, there was a lot of talk about other possibilities of going to the Brazilian championship, also to go to Inter Miami where he plays, Lionel Messi, but he ended up going to the Chilean club, a history of Chilean football.

55:32 Intervenant 1 But what about his name?

55:33 Intervenant 3 There is that controversy of not being able, according to the rules of the Chilean championship, of the Chilean federation, of not being able to wear heels on the T-shirts.

55:43 Intervenant 5 What is the name of his citizen card?

55:45 Intervenant 3 It has to be either Évora or Évora Dias, which are his nicknames. I don't know if Josimar can be there, Josimar is his own name. I don't know if that name can be there, but Colo-Colo has already asked to have an exception here.

55:59 Intervenant 5 So, it's up to Infantino and Trump and the thing is solved.

56:02 Intervenant 3 Yes, especially Infantino now.

56:04 Intervenant 1 He's sending little, at least Trump.

56:06 Intervenant 3 He tried, they saw that according to this project that Infantino had, his salary would go up, increase six times.

56:17 Intervenant 1 But is it because of the cost of gas?

56:19 Intervenant 3 of the gas stations, of the mills, he does many things, this plan that he had to sell a part of the rights of the World Cup has already fallen to the ground, because the federations, for example, the European Federation, the UEFA, said right away that it would not accept this, and then Infantino had to retreat in this project, A project that seems to be a very personal project, and for the friends, it seems that some of the investors who would be in the plans for this acquisition would be linked to Donald Trump and to Gerro, so there is here a very personal plan of Jennifer Dino, but it did not go well. But going back to Vózinha. It's going very well for Vozinha, because you already know here some details of the contract that he will have with Colo-Colo. We are talking about an 18-month contract in which he will earn 44,000 euros per month, that is, 528,000 euros per month. How much does he earn now? I don't know, but this is undoubtedly the best contract in Vozinha's life.

57:32 Intervenant 5 In Chaves, where he was, right?

57:34 Intervenant 3 In Chaves, we are talking about very different values, it is in fact the best contract of the player's career at 40 years old, which shows that sometimes the world championships can still make the difference in the projection of the player and even in the capacity of the player, even at the age of 40, to make the contract of his life.

57:56 Intervenant 5 And there is a work on him now in the Observer.

57:58 Intervenant 3 Yes, yes, these information, exactly, these information are precisely in this article by Mariana Fernandes, these information and many others about the entire path of Vozinha, about what has happened to her, what happened to her after the World Cup, like a game with some of the biggest stars in the world, became a global star and now with the due financial reward also, which makes a difference in these things.

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